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How is it we have no political party?

topic posted Thu, August 26, 2004 - 1:07 PM by  William 		Share/Save/Bookmark
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Maybe I'm missing something, but how did it come to this? We have no political party that is both fiscally conservative yet socially liberal!

Has anyone found one of those smaller political parties that embraces both ideas simultaneously?
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  • Michael
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    Re: How is it we have no political party?

    Thu, August 26, 2004 - 7:17 PM
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    • William
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      Re: How is it we have no political party?

      Sat, August 28, 2004 - 5:54 AM
      Cutting all funding to any social program is not conservative, it is radical in my opinion.

      And they seem to be connected to the religious right as well making them less than socially liberal.
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      • Pablo
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        Re: How is it we have no political party?

        Wed, September 8, 2004 - 9:55 PM
        Baloney. There are prominent members of both political parties who are "fiscally conservative, socially liberal".

        Democrats? Start with Senators Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan from North Dakota. Both come from the Scandinavian/Lutheran tradition of social tolerance and compassion, and both are two of the biggest tightwads in Washington. Others who come to mind are Richard Durbin from Illinois, Jack Reed from Rhode Island, and Dianne Feinstein from California.

        Republicans? Senator Chuck Hagel from Nebraska or Senator Susan Collins from Maine both come to mind. Chuck Hagel is a truly great American, a Vietnam war hero, a stand-up guy who frequently criticizes the Bush administration's spending policies. Susan Collins is a centrist, a pragmatist, and all told a very good Senator.

        You do have a political party. It's the one you're in. Your challenge is to support centrist candidates who favour responsible, prudent fiscal policy coupled with a social agenda anchored by compassion and decency.

        It's up to you to fight extremism from both ends, and to reject the mindless, polarized rhetoric from the Madison Avenue firms.

        There are good and decent people in both political parties, but it's up to the goodness of the American people to find them.
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        • William
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          Re: How is it we have no political party?

          Thu, September 9, 2004 - 7:13 AM
          Okay, I agree and disagree.

          Yes, there are socially liberal fiscally conservative politicians (just as we exist so too do they).

          But neither *party* is "SLFC". Quite to the contrary.

          And yeah, I suppose we could undertake the monumental task of trying to weed out the 97% that are not SLFC from one or both of the two big parties, but it seems better to pick a new party where SLFC is a core set of values. (of course, trying to get a 3rd party elected to a higher office is equally monumental)
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  • Lisa
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    Re: How is it we have no political party?

    Tue, August 30, 2005 - 12:15 PM
    Hi, William,

    You might want to try the party that I have been out trying to help build. It is called the
    NEW AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY.
    It was formed on election night last November. The founder and chairman and some of the other beginning members were volunteers with the Howard Dean campaign. We have been gaining alot of momentum and seem to be popular with Democrats, Republicans, Greens and Reformers. The people who do NOT like us are the Neo-cons and the Right-Wing religious conservatives. I don't know if you would like the party or not, but I thought I would let you know. They are putting together strict finance laws that the party is to follow so it is not "owned" like the others. They are just regular Americans-no career political people. You can check it out at:
    www.newamericanindependent.com

    Note: The party is against illegal immigration, because they and me view it as environmentally and economically unsustainable. We try not to fouc on the illegals themselves, but instead the companies that hire them and the enivronmental & economic toll, including overpopulation, overcrowded schools & highways, pollution, decreased wages, higher taxes, economic strain on our schools, hospitals, jails, etc. If we are not a fit for you, I am sorry. If we are, I encourage you to get involved.

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